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örkelprint
(@orkelprint)
Eminent Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

On my printer, to fix the Z-skew, the screws on the side really can not be tight.

Posted : 05/02/2021 10:26 am
TankerTech
(@tankertech)
Active Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@orkelprint

Are you saying the two side screws that pull the electrical box into the side of the y extrusion? I could see how having them a little loose would allow the weight of the machine sitting on the electrical base foot might push the z axis in toward the bed helping with my issue. I’ll take a look at that. 

This post was modified 3 years ago by TankerTech

PrusaSlicer. Stock MINI+. Novice printer.

Posted : 05/02/2021 1:28 pm
örkelprint
(@orkelprint)
Eminent Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

Yes, exactly those. As soon as you feel them torquing, don't continue. It might feel better to give it one more turn, but it really starts skewing then (for my printer, there can be differences).

Posted : 05/02/2021 3:24 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@tankertech

The X-axis rods are not torsionally stiff. Possibly the extruder is not aligned parallel to the print bed (see pictures). The error increases the further the extruder moves to the x-end.

(everything in order)

 

(slight inclination - falsifies the Z-values in x direction)

 

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen.

Posted : 05/02/2021 3:35 pm
Turro75
(@turro75)
Estimable Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@karl-herbert

I would say the z error is true if the 30x30 rod extrusion is not vertical, an angled nozzle that perfectly arise vertically should only affect print quality as the filament doesn't flow as expected, or I'm wrong?

Posted : 05/02/2021 7:11 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@turro75

Move the X-axis (hotend) all the way to the left to the x-end and with the nozzle about 2mm above the print bed. Then try to rotate the x-end forward (as shown in the 2nd photo). You can observe how the nozzle moves closer to the print bed. Turn the x-end only so far that the nozzle does not touch the print bed. Then, in this position, slowly move the hotend all the way to the right with the x-axis and observe the distance of the nozzle to the print bed. You will notice that the Z-height changes considerably.

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen.

Posted : 05/02/2021 7:51 pm
TankerTech
(@tankertech)
Active Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

Big thanks to @orkelprint and @karl-herbert as it was a combination of their suggestions that ultimately corrected my  xz skew.  You can see in my before/after images below that my bed now just shows normal undulations vs the drastic one way slant from before.  I did in fact have a little bit of twist in my x gantry as @karl-herbert suggested and I confirmed every tiny rotation of the two side screws in the electrical box will indeed pull the gantry unsupported end up away from the bed as mentioned by @orkelprint. Also while I was checking things I performed the xy skew check described HERE and was able to reduce my xy diagonal deviation from .35mm on a 100x100mm square to just .10mm using the provided shim files at the link. Thanks to the community for all the help!

Before

After

 

PrusaSlicer. Stock MINI+. Novice printer.

Posted : 05/02/2021 8:26 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@tankertech

Congratulations on the successful adjustment! If the first layer should no longer fit, I would repeat the same steps and readjust if necessary.

happy printing!

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen.

Posted : 05/02/2021 8:44 pm
d0ug
 d0ug
(@d0ug)
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RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@raymate

Revising a thread I haven't looked at in a bit. My mini printed as far as I could tell printed perfectly out of the box, it's after seeing threads like this you go OCD about how much more perfect can you make it. Then you go down that rabbit hole. Welcome to 3d printing. Considering this mod is pretty cheap, the longest part of it was the screws I could only find from a seller in china that took about a month to arrive. The dis/re assembly and tweaking each of the screws, about an hour depending on how OCD you want to be with it.

Posted : 17/02/2021 8:59 am
Benji
(@benji)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

Please read the up-to-date guide here: https://github.com/bbbenji/PMSBLM
and use the PMSBLM specific converter and plotter here: https://bbbenji.github.io/PMSBLM/

Issues and bugs with the convert can be posted here: https://github.com/bbbenji/PMSBLM/issues

The original instructions are outdated and the Google Sheets converter depreciated. This is a friendly reminder as I am still regularly getting requests from people to edit the spreadsheet and am unabled to edit the original post.

Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod: https://bbbenji.github.io/PMSBLM/

Posted : 17/02/2021 10:52 am
Fredrik
(@fredrik-3)
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RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

I've ordered all the parts for the mod now.. Hopefully I can sort out this mess:

Posted : 01/03/2021 12:09 pm
Landvogt
(@landvogt)
Eminent Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

Today i got the nuts ... but no low profile. What’s the minimum high they can have? Actually I have 3,5mm high. Is it ok?

Posted : 05/03/2021 10:34 am
Benji
(@benji)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@landvogt1893

No, 3.5mm is too high. It must be at most 3mm.
It's explained here in the notes section: https://github.com/bbbenji/PMSBLM#notes

Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod: https://bbbenji.github.io/PMSBLM/

Posted : 05/03/2021 10:38 am
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Turro75
(@turro75)
Estimable Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@landvogt1893

I used 3.5mm everywhere but a standard M3 nut in the rear center (the one ver Y motor) together with a cheap silicon 3x6.

mod installed in early January, not yet had any need to readjust it. 

Posted : 05/03/2021 4:25 pm
Landvogt
(@landvogt)
Eminent Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

only for my understanding:

 

The plugins Prusa Leveling Guide and Prusa Mesh Map with G80/G81 are not necessary? 

I use only the page: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod (bbbenji.github.io)

Posted : 08/03/2021 1:23 pm
kevman
(@kevman)
Estimable Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

CAn someone explain what numbers from the OctoPrint visualaizer correspond to the GitHUB tool to calculate the adjustments ?

 

Here are my numbers for reference

 

 

Posted : 08/03/2021 9:45 pm
Robeena Shepherd
(@robeena-shepherd)
Estimable Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

Go to Octoprint's terminal window and copy and paste them from there! You will have to trim a few characters from the start of each line (it would be great if the tool detected and stripped them for you, but it's not too hard to do it yourself) for it to work when you paste it in.

Posted : 08/03/2021 10:21 pm
Benji
(@benji)
Estimable Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@robee-shepherd

Can you give me an example of unstripped output? The following should all give the same output.

0 1 2 3
0 +0.048 -0.040 -0.066 -0.035
1 -0.040 -0.030 -0.044 +0.010
2 -0.065 -0.050 +0.061 -0.047
3 -0.347 +0.029 -0.045 -0.155
---
0 +0.048 -0.040 -0.066 -0.035
1 -0.040 -0.030 -0.044 +0.010
2 -0.065 -0.050 +0.061 -0.047
3 -0.347 +0.029 -0.045 -0.155
---
+0.048 -0.040 -0.066 -0.035
-0.040 -0.030 -0.044 +0.010
-0.065 -0.050 +0.061 -0.047
-0.347 +0.029 -0.045 -0.155
---
0 1 2 3
+0.048 -0.040 -0.066 -0.035
-0.040 -0.030 -0.044 +0.010
-0.065 -0.050 +0.061 -0.047
-0.347 +0.029 -0.045 -0.155

Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod: https://bbbenji.github.io/PMSBLM/

Posted : 08/03/2021 10:28 pm
Robeena Shepherd
(@robeena-shepherd)
Estimable Member
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@benji sure! Sorry this has to be an image, I am getting a horrible Wordpress plug error (oh gosh please tell me they are not using Wordpress) when I try to paste this as text...

Posted : 08/03/2021 10:43 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Veteran Member Moderator
RE: Prusa Mini Silicone Bed Leveling Mod

@robee-shepherd

you can add zipped files

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 08/03/2021 11:06 pm
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