IKEA obsessing? Isn't a glued/screwed acrylic using less plastic and paper?
 

IKEA obsessing? Isn't a glued/screwed acrylic using less plastic and paper?  

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Christopher72
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Maybe  its because I'm in the USA and have a bias against ever being stuck inside the IKEA mouse maze... but what is the IKEA Lack obsession?   

There's 7+ years of designs of gluing and screwing custom sized acrylic/plexi enclosures with brackets and such on many of the social 3d printing sites.  They all seem fairly strong in design, use substantially less plastic in brackets, and are much cheaper overall for those looking for budget DIY. Acrylic is easy to cut, glue and drill.. and even edge polish if you want to put time into it.

If I was going for a showpiece enclosure, I'd be looking for a laser cut polished acrylic with or without extruded aluminum framing, knowing that the additional cost is for the look.   Adding in a paper IKEA structure into the space doesn't scream quality, and may just add a combustible material to a device designed to be an oven.

Is this just an IKEA fan thing, or is there value that I'm missing?

This topic was modified 2 months ago by Christopher72
Posted : 02/01/2021 5:48 am
bobstro
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Posted by: @christopher72

Maybe  its because I'm in the USA and have a bias against ever being stuck inside the IKEA mouse maze... but what is the IKEA Lack obsession?   

I think it's mostly driven by cost. It's hard to beat a $10 table as a starting point.  A lot of people want a decent looking solution at minimal cost, and the Lack enclosures meet that need.

There's 7+ years of designs of gluing and screwing custom sized acrylic/plexi enclosures with brackets and such on many of the social 3d printing sites.  They all seem fairly strong in design, use substantially less plastic in brackets, and are much cheaper overall for those looking for budget DIY. Acrylic is easy to cut, glue and drill.. and even edge polish if you want to put time into it.

That's probably true with most things, but particularly for furniture. I've looked around for a commercial cabinet solution that meets my needs, but am finding them costing closer to $1,000 than $10. My dad knew enough carpentry that I know he could have cranked out a gorgeous rack at low cost in no time. I wish I'd thought to ask him to do so when I had a rack of network gear at home. Lack of tool and space are barriers for a lot of folks. 

If I was going for a showpiece enclosure, I'd be looking for a laser cut polished acrylic with or without extruded aluminum framing, knowing that the additional cost is for the look.   Adding in a paper IKEA structure into the space doesn't scream quality, and may just add a combustible material to a device designed to be an oven.

The Lack enclosures are a bit like rock soup. You start with a $10 table. Then you add the cost, time, and effort of adding 3D printed parts. Then you add acrylic doors. Then you add reinforcements for stability. Then you add a paver for sound reduction. Then you add a fan for cooling. You go broke saving money.

Is this just an IKEA fan thing, or is there value that I'm missing?

If nothing else, you get to say "I 3D printed some parts and made this awesome enclosure for $10" with a straight face.

All that said, if I could fit my Sidewinder into one, I'd be tempted as a quick solution.

 

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Posted : 02/01/2021 7:15 am
Christopher72
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Stone soup...  So correct!     I appreciate the honest response.  Here each Lack table is about $15... so $30 for two.. and the acrylic is the money.  I'm going to throw out the stone 😋.  Printing multiple days of plastic to wrangle the wood, naw....    plenty of opportunity to print functional plastic to accessorize and stabilize an acrylic cube.  Will see how it turns out and will share if I don't embarrass myself!

Happy new year.

 

 

 

Posted : 03/01/2021 4:51 am
Thejiral
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I get your criticism regarding the LACK table. I was turned away by it being basically compressed paper as well. My solution? Spend even more money at IKEA for a BROR, printing even more stuff to make it happen:

https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/34759-bror-enclosure-v1#_ga=2.124958538.1119087401.1610968433-1711109508.1575026445

 

On the upside, I do think that while it certainly isn't very compact it does look like decent quality and I can say "I designed my own enclosure" 😉

Posted : 18/01/2021 12:29 pm
cwbullet
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@thejiral

Interesting design.  This is similar to what I plan to build but out of wood.  

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Posted : 18/01/2021 12:51 pm
karl-herbert
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There are also relatively inexpensive modular systems (DIY kits), also, like Prusa, produced in the Czech Republic:

https://www.tukkari.com/prusa-mini-enclosures

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen....
Posted : 18/01/2021 1:12 pm
Christopher72
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@thejiral

I do like that much better than the lack.  They are all still too short for a guy that's 186cm tall (6'1"+).

@karl-herbert

Those are reasonably priced laser cut acrylic DIY cases that look good...   Gotta love the shine of those thermally cut edges.... until the IPA hits them and they craze. 😱 

I've purchased two sheets of 3mm polycarbonate and will build something custom on top of one of my workbenches.    My printer is in my tinker workshop (man cave/hide) and doesn't need to emulate furniture.  I was just amazed that when I was looking for other's designs for a DIY enclosure, I had to look back several years before the Lack obsession to find anything that wasn't IKEA paper based!

I'm not really anti-IKEA... my kids hamster lives in an IKEA Detolf...   I just didn't understand why everyone was 120cm (4') tall and thought that putting a 400C heater in a paper based enclosure was a good idea. lol.

Posted : 18/01/2021 2:39 pm
Thejiral
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@christopher72

Height is not an issue with BROR shelfs though. 😉 That is the lower shelf because I prefer it that way but there is also ~2 m BROR shelf available which one could use as the base for this enclosure, without even changing anything in the design, other than mounting everything higher up.

The acrylic cases from tukkari look nice. For an MK3 and a Mini they'd be really interesting. The price is very fair as well, given that the material costs of that acrylic glass itself are easily half that price alone. However, for the MMU case I am not so sure I would want one of those. It is very helpful to have unobstructed access from the top without much hassle or the need to remove the printer from the enclosure. As far as I can see that, this is not given with their MMU enclosure. But I suppose that is a rather specific requirement.

Posted : 19/01/2021 2:03 pm
Christopher72
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@thejiral

True - I'm considering using magnets to secure a top panel, and front as well.   pretty doors are nice for a living space, but its either going to be running pla/petg and open, or closed and doing nylon/pc.   Right now I can't interrupt to build, since my boys are printing 3dsets.com 1/10 RC trucks.    I need more printers.

Posted : 19/01/2021 7:57 pm
cwbullet
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@christopher72

Magnets are the way to go!  I have done this on my enclosures.

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Posted : 19/01/2021 9:08 pm
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