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Hester
(@hester)
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Looking for high temp z axis stepper motor

Anybody know of a high temp z axis stepper motor I could buy? I am trying to get to 90 degrees C in my inclosure.

Thanks 

Posted : 07/08/2021 1:01 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
High temp;

LDO makes them and Filastruder sell them:

https://www.filastruder.com/products/ldo-stepper-motors-all-types

Look at the chart.  

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3D Printer Review Blog...
Posted : 07/08/2021 9:58 am
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: None have Long Lead Screw?

@cwbullet thanks for the information but none of those have the long Z-Axis lead screw. Can you or someone help me with finding the stepper motor with the longer lead screw?

Posted : 07/08/2021 7:50 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Moderator
try here!

https://zaribo.com/stepper-motors/58-4956-zaribo-prusa-z-axis-nema-17-integrated-lead-screw-320mm-stepper-motor-for-3d-printers.html#/167-connector_type-dupont_ie_rambo

Joan

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Posted : 07/08/2021 7:59 pm
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Suggested Z-axis motor has no temperature specification

@JoanTabb thanks for the information but this motor does not have any temperature specifications. I am looking for a High Temp motor like 180 degree C so I can run my temperature chamber at 90C. Can you or someone help with this?

 

Posted : 07/08/2021 8:11 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE: None have Long Lead Screw?

To drive the Z-axis trapezoidal spindle, I used motors from Stepperonline (or others of your choice with 5mm mounting) and a clutch:

TR8x8 or similar trapezoidal leadscrews are available in any 3D printer store.

wbr,

Karl

 

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Posted : 07/08/2021 8:14 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Moderator
hot stuff

Drop then a request for info... 

I believe they are LDO Motors

your expected temperature range seems high!

 

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK...
Posted : 07/08/2021 8:17 pm
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Good Idea Karl

I was thinking about that coupler/clutch but I am not familiar with how good they are. @karl-herbert Will the clutch get in the way of the z-axis going all the way down? And is there any wobble?

Posted : 07/08/2021 8:22 pm
Hester
(@hester)
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Topic starter answered:
I will contact them for specifications

@JoanTabb you are very helpful. I will contact them. @JoanTabb Also what is the best temp chamber temp for ABS/ASA. I assumed the thermal expansion would decrease with a higher chamber temperature. So I though 90C would be best.

Posted : 07/08/2021 8:27 pm
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
Ender3

 

Posted by: @karl-herbert

To drive the Z-axis trapezoidal spindle, I used motors from Stepperonline (or others of your choice with 5mm mounting) and a clutch:

TR8x8 or similar trapezoidal leadscrews are available in any 3D printer store.

wbr,

Karl

 

That is very much like the Ender 3 and should work.  

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Chuck H
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Posted : 07/08/2021 9:14 pm
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Thanks Karl

Thanks for the information Karl

Posted : 07/08/2021 9:15 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE:Good Idea Karl

No wobbling as long as the stepper axle runs smoothly. The stepper can be moved down or mounted on top.

wbr,

Karl

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Posted : 07/08/2021 9:18 pm
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Thanks for Clarifying Karl

@Karl Thanks for the detailed drawing. I didn't know there was a ball inside.

Posted : 07/08/2021 9:20 pm
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
Illustrious Member
RE: Thanks for Clarifying Karl

Due to the design of the clutch, the ball should compensate suspensions in Z-direction. Alternatively, you could use claw clutches (I use them on my CNC milling machine).

wbr,

Karl

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen....
Posted : 07/08/2021 10:07 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Moderator
Pass...

Sorry, I don't do ABS or ASA. 
ABS gave me breathing problems
regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK...
Posted : 07/08/2021 10:51 pm
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Thanks Karl

Thank you again for more information that will help me connect the stepper motor to the Lead screw.

Posted : 08/08/2021 1:48 am
Hester
(@hester)
Active Member
Topic starter answered:
Thanks Joan

Thank you Joan for answering questions. Understood about ABS breathing problems. 

Posted : 08/08/2021 1:51 am
karl-herbert
(@karl-herbert)
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ABS, ASA, HIPS - harmful to health ?

Some plastics emit toxic fumes above the melting temperature, which can be harmful to health (styrene, caprolactam, lactide, ultrafine dust...). PLA and PETG are less harmful. Unfortunately, there are fewer studies on this, so it's better to work in a well-ventilated environment when printing.

https://www.whiteclouds.com/blog/toxicity-of-abs.html

wbr,

Karl

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen....
Posted : 08/08/2021 12:39 pm
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
Fumes

 

Posted by: @karl-herbert

Some plastics emit toxic fumes above the melting temperature, which can be harmful to health (styrene, caprolactam, lactide, ultrafine dust...). PLA and PETG are less harmful. Unfortunately, there are fewer studies on this, so it's better to work in a well-ventilated environment when printing.

https://www.whiteclouds.com/blog/toxicity-of-abs.html

wbr,

Karl

Good information.  I think I would say that some filaments “may be harmful” to your health.  We need more data, but it is clear that some are more susceptible than others.  I would strongly recommend using your printer in areas separated from you main living area and in enclosures with filtration if possible.  

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Chuck H
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Posted : 08/08/2021 12:46 pm
Dan Rogers
(@dan-rogers)
Noble Member
90C is crazy too hot for enclosure target

That's 194 degrees Fahrenheit - no need for that to print ABS.  When I print ABS, my enclosure temps get up to 35, 36, sometimes 39 c.   Save yourself some time and money - you don't need to go that hot to get great ABS prints.  What you will need is a ventilation system that takes the styrene gas and vents it through filters and then outside.  I built my evac system for a couple hundred bucks and only had to drill one 4 inch hole through the outside wall of the house.  Double duty by splitting the evac between the paint booth and the enclosure.

 

Posted : 09/08/2021 11:12 am
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