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wless1
(@wless1)
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New nozzle question

Hi there,

I'm looking to get a new nozzle for more abrasive materials.

Is this nozzle correct for the MK3?

https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/e3d-volcano-hardened-steel-nozzle-175mm-x-040mm/sk/MAQDV0J7

In particular, I didn't know if the length of the nozzle is relevant.

Thanks!

Posted : 06/03/2018 9:03 pm
Dewey79
(@dewey79)
Honorable Member
Re: New nozzle question

If you look into the 3D Printer accessory page on PRUSA's webside it will get you the below information. Comparing the two pictures shows the threaded shaft length of your photo is a lot longer than the one listed on PRUSA's site.

PAR-E3D-NOZ-H40 Hardened steel E3D V6 Nozzle

https://e3d-online.com/hardened-v6-nozzles

Posted : 06/03/2018 9:13 pm
Petehagoras
(@petehagoras)
Eminent Member
Re: New nozzle question

The volcano has a different, longer heatblock, so thst nozzle would be to long. this one should be the correct one: https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/e3d-v6-extra-nozzle-hardened-steel-1.75mm-x-0.40mm/sk/MSDV7HN9

I invested in an olsson ruby nozzle, as i don't want to care about ware, but im printing a lot commercially, and all types of filament, but i cant tell yet if its worth the money, that will take some time.

greetings

Posted : 06/03/2018 9:18 pm
Dewey79
(@dewey79)
Honorable Member
Re: New nozzle question


The volcano has a different, longer heatblock, so thst nozzle would be to long. this one should be the correct one: https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/e3d-v6-extra-nozzle-hardened-steel-1.75mm-x-0.40mm/sk/MSDV7HN9

I invested in an olsson ruby nozzle, as i don't want to care about ware, but im printing a lot commercially, and all types of filament, but i cant tell yet if its worth the money, that will take some time.

greetings

Please keep us informed if you see ware.

Posted : 06/03/2018 11:32 pm
rick.d2
(@rick-d2)
Active Member
Re: New nozzle question

I am also interested in the Olsson Ruby Nozzle - 1.75mm x 0.40mm; I have read very conflicting opinions as to the nozzle quality and whether or not you can use it with the MK3 bed leveling. Could someone here please clarify this...

1.) Is the nozzle quality worth the upgrade?
2.) Can it be installed and still use the MK3's bed leveling ?

Thank you in advance!

Sincerely, Rick Dunn
President and CEO Dr Kruger Pet Supplements
[email protected]
http://www.drkruger.com Toll Free: (800) 711-8736 We've been keeping pets "Healthy For Life" since 1986

Posted : 14/03/2018 12:25 am
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Veteran Member Moderator
Re: New nozzle question

Hi Rick

the nozzle type plays no active part in bed levelling... the process is the same.
it is almost guaranteed that the ohlson ruby will be a tiny bit different length to the existing nozzle, after assembly.
so you will have to:-
at best, re adjust Live Z adjustment,
or at worst, :-
re calibrate the printer... this is a 15 to 20 minute process.

after that you probably will not change the nozzle unless you want a different diameter in the future

below is a link to the Prusa Nozzle change page... NOTE it advises you to follow the process on the ohlson page! so make sure you read both!

https://help.prusa3d.com/l/en/article/fJa7GxLSG6-changing-or-replacing-nozzle

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 14/03/2018 12:52 am
john.v11
(@john-v11)
Estimable Member
Re: New nozzle question

Make sure you read the ruby nozzle install BEFORE removing the nozzle as you need to print a torque wrench to install the ruby nozzle without overtightening it!

Posted : 14/03/2018 1:01 am
rick.d2
(@rick-d2)
Active Member
Re: New nozzle question

Thank you to joan.t and john.v11 you folks gave me the answer I need !!!! 🙂

Sincerely, Rick Dunn
President and CEO Dr Kruger Pet Supplements
[email protected]
http://www.drkruger.com Toll Free: (800) 711-8736 We've been keeping pets "Healthy For Life" since 1986

Posted : 14/03/2018 3:44 am
Chris
(@chris-16)
Reputable Member
Re: New nozzle question


Thank you to joan.t and john.v11 you folks gave me the answer I need !!!! 🙂

On the matter hackers site look for e3d v6. The hardened nozzle is around $12 shipped. Are you planning on printing carbon fiber pla or ceramic or metal infused? If not a simple $12 will do fine the Olsen ruby is mainly for overkill operations or people who have more money than sense.

Posted : 14/03/2018 5:48 am
rick.d2
(@rick-d2)
Active Member
Re: New nozzle question



Thank you to joan.t and john.v11 you folks gave me the answer I need !!!! 🙂

On the matter hackers site look for e3d v6. The hardened nozzle is around $12 shipped. Are you planning on printing carbon fiber pla or ceramic or metal infused? If not a simple $12 will do fine the Olsen ruby is mainly for overkill operations or people who have more money than sense.

Hi chris.n6,

Great question; as I will be using this for a production printer I will need it to be as versatile as possible. The main material that will be printed is most likely PETG; however I will be doing nylon, carbon fiber, wood and other exotic materials as a particular job will require particular materials. My thinking is I would rather have the capability already installed. Time is money when printing for customers, being able to use any filament material without issue makes more business sense to me.

This printer is not being used as a hobby printer; it will be the first of several main production printers for my business and therefore need to be as beefy and versatile as possible so I can go from one material to another without issue. It is one less thing I have to remember; I can just focus on getting the job out in a timely manner.

Hope my answer makes sense and I thank you for the question! Please let me know if you think my reasoning on this is not sound.

Sincerely, Rick Dunn
President and CEO Dr Kruger Pet Supplements
[email protected]
http://www.drkruger.com Toll Free: (800) 711-8736 We've been keeping pets "Healthy For Life" since 1986

Posted : 14/03/2018 3:44 pm
Rakku
(@rakku)
Trusted Member
Re: New nozzle question

Regarding the ruby nozzle:

I read alot of opinions on it and in the end, if you dont print abrasive materials 24/7 its not worth it imo.

If you just print a few rolls of abrasive materials, a steel nozzle will do just fine for that, no reason to throw like 100 bucks out of the window.

I´ll just stick with brass nozzles and if the time should come, I´ll just invest in a hardened steel nozzle for those rare cases.

Posted : 14/03/2018 9:32 pm
Chris
(@chris-16)
Reputable Member
Re: New nozzle question




Thank you to joan.t and john.v11 you folks gave me the answer I need !!!! 🙂

On the matter hackers site look for e3d v6. The hardened nozzle is around $12 shipped. Are you planning on printing carbon fiber pla or ceramic or metal infused? If not a simple $12 will do fine the Olsen ruby is mainly for overkill operations or people who have more money than sense.

Hi chris.n6,

Great question; as I will be using this for a production printer I will need it to be as versatile as possible. The main material that will be printed is most likely PETG; however I will be doing nylon, carbon fiber, wood and other exotic materials as a particular job will require particular materials. My thinking is I would rather have the capability already installed. Time is money when printing for customers, being able to use any filament material without issue makes more business sense to me.

This printer is not being used as a hobby printer; it will be the first of several main production printers for my business and therefore need to be as beefy and versatile as possible so I can go from one material to another without issue. It is one less thing I have to remember; I can just focus on getting the job out in a timely manner.

Hope my answer makes sense and I thank you for the question! Please let me know if you think my reasoning on this is not sound.

The $12 nozzle will do occasional Carbon fiber and wood without a problem. If you were exclusively doing CF, Ceramic, or other high wear materials then the Olssen Ruby might make sense. However, this is not a set and forget situation. CF will wear things all along your filament path so plan on buying replacement bondtech as they will wear as well and eventually stop feeding. the ptfe tubing will also wear and since you cannot see it i'm guessing you will probably either plug a heatsink or at least end up wearing it so plan on buying replacements of that as well if you are printing substantial amounts of high wear materials.

one other consideration, you will also need to become very adept at clearing jams. fibrous or infused materials have built in nozzle blocking characteristics. make sure to pick up some extra acupuncture needles as well as nylon for doing cold pulls. anytime you hear the click of the e motor it is time to start trying to unobstruct.

looking at your site i wonder what doggie related items need exotic materials? intriguing...

Posted : 15/03/2018 5:47 pm
rick.d2
(@rick-d2)
Active Member
Re: New nozzle question

HI chris.n6,

Thank you for your reply; my company is making Custom Made 3D Printed Jewelry (dog related) as a fun add on (wearables) to our show booth inventory, We will be trying different materials as we develop new designs. We will be experimenting with exotic materials in this process and since this is printer #2 (first prusa however) in our growing printer farm I need to be able to try things without the downtime of changing nozzles several times a day. We are also making parts for our show booth, show trailer and so on; being able to go seamlessly between filament types is a very high priority.

Hope this explanation makes my reasoning a bit clearer 😀

Sincerely, Rick Dunn
President and CEO Dr Kruger Pet Supplements
[email protected]
http://www.drkruger.com Toll Free: (800) 711-8736 We've been keeping pets "Healthy For Life" since 1986

Posted : 10/04/2018 4:41 pm
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