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Peter M
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Printing a Boat with EVERY FILAMENT

Printing a Boat with EVERY FILAMENT

Posted : 05/08/2021 11:40 am
bobstro
(@bobstro)
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The Mk3 is great for nylon, but there are a few caveats
Posted by: @catherine-2

I'm looking for a 3D printer for nylon and have seen PRUSA printers and am really excited about this brand. What models are suitable for nylon? I finished reading some 3D printer reviews online. I landed here during my research and it feels like here I will see industry expert advice. Please recommend something that can work really great.

The Mk3 can print nylon quite successfully, but there are issues to be aware of:

  • Some filaments, notably nylon, are very sensitive to temperature fluctuations and prone to warping if not held at a uniform temperature during printing. An enclosure is generally recommended to keep everything at a consistent temperature. A simple photography tent may suffice, but if you're printing a LOT with nylon, a more robust enclosure is recommended.
  • Nylon is very picky about what print surfaces it will adhere to, and unfortunately, PEI is not ideal. You can print nylon on PEI, but you'll need to coat the sheet liberally with glue stick or some other adhesion enhancer meant for nylon. You can order garolite surfaces mounted on spring steel sheets that are a much better solution.
  • Some nylons, notably Taulman's Bridge and 230 products, are intended to be printed at lower temperatures and on cooler beds. I found I am able to print Taulman Bridge with a cooler (45C) bed and no enclosure. I think the lower bed heat keeps the entire print more consistently warm, and this may not work at all in winter months.
  • There are a lot of nylon products available. If you need to print above 300C, you may need some hardware (heater block, nozzle, thermistor) upgrades. That's a bit outside my expertise, so I can't help too much with the details.

Glad the notes are useful!

 

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing and miscellaneous other tech projects
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Posted : 05/08/2021 4:03 pm
Catherine
(@catherine-2)
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RE: best 3D printer under 1000

Is there anyone who has experience with FlashForge 3D Printer Creator Pro? I am thinking to purchase this 3D printer from this list as I have been using ANYCUBIC for a long. Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

This post was modified 1 month ago by Catherine
Posted : 18/09/2021 3:49 pm
Dan Rogers
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Finally the douche canoe has left

That first guy is a total douche canoe.  Bob, I'm surprised you put up with his disrespect.

Posted : 19/09/2021 10:33 am
jsw
 jsw
(@jsw)
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Posted by: @dan-rogers

That first guy is a total douche canoe.  Bob, I'm surprised you put up with his disrespect.

Yeah, he gave me a snotty and uncalled-for response when I posted a video that I thought might be relevant to what he was asking.

Posted : 19/09/2021 1:46 pm
cwbullet
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Illustrious Member
nylon

I do print nylon.  What are you specific questions?

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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog...
Posted : 19/09/2021 2:37 pm
Eric E
(@eric-e)
Topic starter answered:
Thank you

Thank you Chuck,

I have figured out nylon in a variety of flavors to my satisfaction.  All good here, printing it for money.

Don’t trust forum advice....
Posted : 20/09/2021 10:57 pm
bobstro
(@bobstro)
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Concerns about the printer and review site in equal measure
Posted by: @catherine-2

Is there anyone who has experience with FlashForge 3D Printer Creator Pro? I am thinking to purchase this 3D printer from this list as I have been using ANYCUBIC for a long. Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

That may not be your best bet if you want to print nylon. Per the FlashForge produce page, the maximum printing temperature of the Creator Pro is 240C. Many nylons require temperatures of 250C or higher. I'd also be very cautious of FlashForge's emphasis on their proprietary extruder and nozzles as proprietary typically equates to some sort of lock-in. Finally, the build area is fairly small for any sort of functional prints (227x148x150mm). I'd also suggest researching other 3D printing sites. That PrinterDeets site seems to be clickbait for anything with the word "printer" in it, with 3D and inkjet printers touted in equal measure, all written by the no-doubt talented David Shelton. Nowhere do I see any reference to evaluation criteria or print quality. Their conclusion of "Since we are here to conclude our guide on the best 3D printers under 1000, we are very hopeful that all your concerns and confusions must have been solved and you will be able to choose a 3D printer that suits you best according to your needs." does not inspire confidence.

Not surprisingly, opinions here will lean towards Prusa, but there are some good legitimate 3D printing communities that can provide better technical recommendations.

Happy shopping!

 

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan...
Posted : 21/09/2021 3:36 am
jsw
 jsw
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Yeah, that site looks a bit hinky.  Looks like the site owner is trying to generate Amazon referrals.

I don't know if the site owner is not a native speaker of English or what.  Some of that text actually looks like it may be machine-generated.  Many of the written items just do not make sense.  (WTF is an 'Optimized build platform'?)  They include the dimensions of the machines, but not the build sizes.

As noted, proprietary lock-ins are not mentioned.

Posted : 21/09/2021 6:48 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
Hinky

That about sums it up.  “Hinky”

Posted by: @jsw

Yeah, that site looks a bit hinky.  Looks like the site owner is trying to generate Amazon referrals.

I don't know if the site owner is not a native speaker of English or what.  Some of that text actually looks like it may be machine-generated.  Many of the written items just do not make sense.  (WTF is an 'Optimized build platform'?)  They include the dimensions of the machines, but not the build sizes.

As noted, proprietary lock-ins are not mentioned.

 

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Chuck H
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Posted : 21/09/2021 9:32 am
Swiss_Cheese
(@swiss_cheese)
Noble Member

you guys, I hope recognize this spam, right?

The Filament Whisperer...
Posted : 22/09/2021 12:06 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
Post

I do now.  It so hard to determine this just by looking at the post.  

Posted by: @swiss_cheese

you guys, I hope recognize this spam, right?

 

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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog...
Posted : 22/09/2021 12:09 am
Swiss_Cheese
(@swiss_cheese)
Noble Member

They are getting tricky.

The Filament Whisperer...
Posted : 22/09/2021 12:34 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
Illustrious Member
Spam

I do nto have this problem on my forum - XenForo prevents spam posts.  

Posted by: @swiss_cheese

They are getting tricky.

 

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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog...
Posted : 22/09/2021 12:36 am
Swiss_Cheese
(@swiss_cheese)
Noble Member
SpAm

@cwbullet

 

I'm not sure if it's AI or not, but this is the second time I've encountered this and they will try to continue to respond as if they are participating. then post links to Hinky sites as described earlier. to me it's kinda like when some individuals came in trying to fain interest in Prusa Printers only to find out they were trying to ramp up the numbers on there YouTube sites. 

The Filament Whisperer...
Posted : 22/09/2021 1:04 am
bobstro
(@bobstro)
Illustrious Member
Not fully automated, resource intensive if so
Posted by: @swiss_cheese

They are getting tricky.

The pic is suspicious, but if it is, it's high-effort spam. If they have to actively do work, it pays to keep 'em busy. If nothing else, this thread puts it on record that site is BS. Would be appropriate for an admin to nerf the link.

 

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan...
Posted : 22/09/2021 1:40 am
jsw
 jsw
(@jsw)
Noble Member
Posted by: @bobstro

The pic is suspicious,

 

Curiosity got to me.  I did searches with Tin Eye and Google reverse image search.  Nothing matched exactly, but a few of the hits I got were those 'human face generator' sites.  😉  You can try it if you like and if you're bored and have time to kill.  😉

Posted : 22/09/2021 7:52 am
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