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Jeremy
(@jeremy)
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Thermal runaway layer 2

Hi,

I have a strange thermal runaway :

It prints the first layer perfectly, and as soon as it starts layer 2, the nozzle temp starts to drop until the printer stops and indicates "thermal runway". 

I have done several prints, and it is always the case. When layer 2 starts, i tried to adjust manually the nozzle temperature, but it ignores it and keep dropping.

If it was the thermistor i guess it would not work for layer 1 as well, so i'm a bit lost here,

Any idea ?

Happy print !

 

Posted : 07/06/2021 4:54 am
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal runaway layer 2

Sounds like the part fan kicking in at layer 2 is causing the heater to cool too rapidly.  The simplest fix is to fit a silicone sock.  If you dont have one they are a good idea to fit anyway as they can potentially help if you have a detached print resulting in a blob of doom'(tm) 🙂  They also stop the rapid cooling.

Another alternative if you are using slicer 2.3.x is to change the cooling settings under your filament profile.  Theres a new option for Full fan at Layer x.  That ramps the speed up gradually.  Set it to something like 3 or 5 and try a print.  The sock is a better option though.

Posted : 07/06/2021 6:49 am
Jeremy
(@jeremy)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: Thermal runaway layer 2

@neophyl

You are correct. Searching, i found a note from Prusa about it. I don't print PLA usually so i don't use fan or 10/20%. And this time i tried to print with PLA (and 100% fan)...If fan is OFF, it is fine. 

But i can't say this is FINE. The printer is a MK2.5S. I will try a sock.

Have a nice day !

Posted : 07/06/2021 8:02 am
Pseudo_end
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RE: Thermal runaway layer 2

What kind of temperature drop are you getting ?

is it just a few degrees and then it rises again or does it just go down without recovering back to target temps ?

i have been printing with pla quite alot, and i have seen dips (a degree of 2 to 4) when the fan kicks on, but then in the span of a few seconds it goes back to target temps. i have not seen the thermal runaway error yet.

a sock does help it stabilize, but if it can't catch up it might be another issue.

if you are using octoprint you have a nice tempgraph, it might illustrate your point better.

Posted : 07/06/2021 8:44 am
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