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Mattias Fagerlund
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Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

Every time the filament runs out, the extraction fails and the filament gets stuck inside the extruder. The only way I've found to dislodge it is to disassemble the extruder (which takes a VERY long time). Is this to be expected? The run-out sensor doesn't do be doing anything.

Oh, and it's totally impossible to continue the print after the extruder has been moved around, so the print fails.

Do you all throw away spools as they start running out, or am I doing something wrong?

Posted : 26/01/2020 2:28 pm
RH_Dreambox
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

Is the filament sensor active?
Look in the "Settings / Filament sensor On" menu.

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Posted : 26/01/2020 4:28 pm
bobstro
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

Try extruding a bit of filament before ejecting if you can. That will soften the tip and reduce the possibility of a blob getting stuck higher up during removal.

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Posted : 26/01/2020 4:48 pm
Mike Daneman
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

You have to trim off the bent piece of filament for the end before it goes into the extruder. Otherwise it’ll get stuck. 

Posted : 27/01/2020 8:18 am
Nikolai
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder
Posted by: @mattias-fagerlund

Oh, and it's totally impossible to continue the print after the extruder has been moved around, so the print fails.

Do you all throw away spools as they start running out, or am I doing something wrong?

It happened to me once because of the bend filament end. I was able to open the door, remove the filament and assemble everything back without moving the head. It continued to print like usual. No failed print.

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Posted : 28/01/2020 12:06 am
Mattias Fagerlund
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

@rhdreambox

Yep - it did notice that it had run out - but it fed it far enough that it couldn't be caught!

Posted : 03/02/2020 5:16 pm
Mattias Fagerlund
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

@nikolai-r

Thanks to all who replied, it sounds like it should be possible to save the situation without resorting to disassembling the extruder. I'll try harder next time - but I would prefer if the prusa stopped extruding waaaay earlier than it seems to have done so far.

Posted : 03/02/2020 5:33 pm
rmm200
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

If I had your problem often - I would look at one of the extruder variants that make this easier.

Bear BNBSX or Skelly. I have the parts for the BNBSX - still on my to-do list.

Posted : 03/02/2020 5:45 pm
Nikolai
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

@mattias-fagerlund

I would prefer with as-well but it's physically not possible. The filament end need to pass the sensor before it triggers. And if the filament end is angled badly because this is how it gets on the roll then there is not much you can do at the sensor.

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Posted : 03/02/2020 5:45 pm
Martijn Janssen
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RE: Whenever I run out of filament - I have to disassemble the entire extruder

This is a known issue, according to Github. 

https://github.com/prusa3d/Original-Prusa-i3/issues/135

No solution yet, as far as I know. 

Posted : 28/03/2021 8:50 pm
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