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coen.l
(@coen-l)
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Vertical lines in print objects

Dear PRUSAholics

Have already searched a lot but unfortunately did not find what caused the problem. Or how to solve it.
I recently purchased an Mk3 (KIT). Unfortunately, there are vertical lines in the print objects. If I increase the speed these become less visible, but then there is more ringing .....

Who can point me in the right direction, so that I can improve this, and get a beautiful object without "wrinkles"

Thanks so far

Gr
Coen

Posted : 29/07/2018 10:21 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
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Re: Vertical lines in print objects

did you create the model yourself?

if so, did you save the STL using fine detail settings?

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 29/07/2018 11:29 pm
coen.l
(@coen-l)
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Vertical lines in print objects

Hi Joan,

Thanks for your message. I did not design it myself. This is part of a 3Dlabprint model. With my other printer it comes out neatly without "wrinkles".

If I use the gcode files from the included SD-card, the wrinkles are also visible.

Posted : 30/07/2018 8:45 am
devilhunter
(@devilhunter)
Reputable Member
Re: Vertical lines in print objects

I'd be interested in what this is, too.

The MK2 has the same problem, and it's unresolved

https://shop.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-i3-kit-archive--f84/vertical-lines-t1279.html
and
https://github.com/prusa3d/Prusa-Firmware/issues/428

It's caused due to vibrations, the X and Y axis do not run as smooth as on other printers like the CR10
I have these (to much lesser extent) on all of my MK2 and MK3 machines.
No amount of firmware or hardware tweaks will get completely rid of it, i've tried just about everything.

It's also at some perimeter speeds only, so the firmware is doing something nasty here.
Try upping all the perimeter speeds via 10mm/s increments, i've found sometimes it does not show when printing very slow (like 15mm/s), or when printing very fast (like 80mm/s)

There is a way to minimize this, to use a very stable Frame (like Haribo/Zaribo or Bear Frame), or to bolt the Z Frame to the Desk via Z Braces, or to simply use very rigid feet.
http://prusaowners.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_make_prints_better_on_the_mk3#Replacement_feet

It won't go away fully, looks like Prusa never bothered to find out why.

Posted : 30/07/2018 12:55 pm
coen.l
(@coen-l)
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Vertical lines in print objects

The wrinkles are considerably less but still visible. Have found a kind of solution ...

I have lowered the belt tension from X 242 and Y 240 to X 288 and Y 286.…

When I put my finger on the moving bed (Y) I feel a vibration caused by what I think the stepper motor. By reducing the tension of the belt, the vibration is also a lot less. See photos for the result.

Can the vibration be caused by a fault of mine in construction, a mechnical problem or the stepper / driver combination?

Pinter settings are the same. it is a part of the 3Dlabprint MIG15BIS printed with the supplied Gcode

Posted : 06/08/2018 11:54 pm
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