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Ken S.
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Am I squishing the first layer too much?

I just finished assembling my MK3S last weekend and am new to 3D printing.  I calibrated the first layer and set the PINDA height according to the guide.  Then I set the live Z value to a number around -0.625.  My eyes can't see the filament well enough to see if the tiny lines in the live Z are squished or not.

I have printed the Prusa logo several times and the bottom of the logo comes out very, very smooth.  As in, smooth as glass.  I can't even feel any grooves with my fingernails but the diagonal lines are visible on the bottom.  There is a _slight_ elephant foot in the first layer but only on  the left and right of the logo.  The front and back edges are completely straight.

Posted : 07/10/2020 1:20 pm
Ken S.
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Am I squishing the first layer too much?

As a follow-up, the first layer goes down as a continuous line.  It doesn't appear to be splotchy or beaded like I've seen in some YouTube videos as examples of too low.

Posted : 07/10/2020 1:28 pm
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RE: Am I squishing the first layer too much?

Here's a fair test for first layer: the sheet of plastic should be solid, not separated strips / harp strings.

1) Gaps indicate Live-Z is too high.
2) Ridges at the ends of runs indicate Live-Z is too low. 

I've found a nominal +/-25 um range is generally acceptable most of the time. This sample you'll find a few gaps, and I could probably go 10 to 25 um lower, but the overall print results are quite acceptable. You can also chase Live-Z - but making adjustments for every spool change, every room temp change, and even during spool runout - well, generally these variations are minimal.

Cal-Circles

Posted : 07/10/2020 4:32 pm
Ken S.
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Am I squishing the first layer too much?

This helps a lot.  I printed a large, flat sheet and messed with the live Z while it was printing.  I moved the Z by .025 ever cm and found the sweet spot between squishing and separated strips.

Posted : 08/10/2020 4:24 pm
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