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AndrewTerry
(@andrewterry)
Eminent Member
Filament recommendations? (UK)

Since getting my Mini+ in late May, it has only been fed a diet of Prusament, and as much I'd like that to continue, shipping to the UK costs the same as a roll, so single roll purchases are out of the question, and multi-roll purchases aren't always practical.

Looking on Amazon, there a ton of brands to choose from but in true Amazon fashion, they all have polar-opposite reviews - one user says, great; another says, terrible - so I'm bit stuck .

Am I overthinking this? Are other brands (eSUN, SUNLU, Eryone, Amazon own-brand) just as good as Prusament, or can it be a minefield?

(edit to correct typo)

Posted : 26/07/2021 8:22 am
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
Famed Member

Its a minefield.  
You basically need to find a reputable brand you can get regularly in the UK.  Even then suppliers can go downhill.  For example I've had upwards of 50 rolls of Spectrum filament and it was my go to, I even bought direct from their factory,  but last year every new roll I had from them caused me jams and clogging issues.  Their QC has really gone down so I wont buy any more.

As for suppliers, 3dJake is good, even though they are in europe the shipping is fast and free if 2 rolls or more.  UK manufacturer 3DTommorow I've also had good results with but I had to print their pla 10 degrees hotter with their filament. 
Filaprint is a decent supplier and their own brand stuff is ok when in stock.
I've also had success with Fiberlogy and Extrudr brands (both from 3dJake).

Posted : 26/07/2021 9:13 am
abacabie
(@abacabie)
Active Member
RE: UK based filament.

I'm in the UK and have mostly used SUNLU, tried the PETG and PLA without issue, if you do use them go direct to there website, its a lot cheaper that Amazon, PLA is £13 and PETG is £14 , postage is free by Royal mail 48, i have also used 3dqf, they are UK based and made in the UK, they only have PLA at the moment though, postage is free with them also with PLA running £16 or so.

Posted : 26/07/2021 3:10 pm
Lichtjaeger
(@lichtjaeger)
Noble Member
Eco filament made in UK:

Filamentive

Posted : 26/07/2021 6:42 pm
BrettG
(@brettg)
Trusted Member
confused

 

Posted by: @lichtjaeger

Filamentive

These seem to be expensive compared to just buying direct from Prusa and eating up the shipping/duties.

@AndrewTerry how did you get on with your decision in the end ? I also just use Prusament and live in the UK so similar circumstances. 

Posted : 09/08/2021 2:43 pm
AndrewTerry
(@andrewterry)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
3dJake

@BrettG - I ended up ordering a couple of reels from 3DJake, but haven't tried them yet - two rolls, shipped from Austria with free shipping worked out at a shade under £40.

I'll be printing a couple of bits & bobs with their PLA later in the week, and can report back then, if that helps?

Posted : 09/08/2021 3:43 pm
BrettG
(@brettg)
Trusted Member
Yes please

 

Posted by: @andrewterry

@BrettG - I ended up ordering a couple of reels from 3DJake, but haven't tried them yet - two rolls, shipped from Austria with free shipping worked out at a shade under £40.

I'll be printing a couple of bits & bobs with their PLA later in the week, and can report back then, if that helps?

If you wouldn’t mind that would great thank you 

Posted : 09/08/2021 6:45 pm
Detig
(@detig)
New Member
Eryone, Sunlu and 3DQF

I've used a few brands in addition to Prusament. Eryone (matte gray PLA) was ok once dialed in, but I could not get their glow in the dark to work as it is increbly brittle. Buying from their site was cheaper than from Amazon, but one of my orders took weeks or months to show up.

Sunlu (white PETG) was fine too, may have ordered it directly from their site or on AliExpress.

On the cheapish end of the scale (£15-18) I've used a few rolls of 3DQF (yellow, regal purple, grey) which was mostly fine but their spools are not as well spun as Prusament. 3DQF is based in Manchester and the availability of their filament is very spotty as they give preference to wholesale customers.

To keep track of the different settings for each filament I have a spreadsheet tracking info like bed/nozzle temp so that I've an idea of where to start when changing rolls or for future reference. Technically you can do that on the slicer of course but my guess is that the list of filament profiles could become unwieldy quite quickly.

 

Posted : 10/08/2021 12:21 pm
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
Famed Member

If you don't bother installing most of the prebuilt filament profiles and just have ones for the actual filament you use its actually very manageable.  I only ever use my custom ones now as they are tweaked for my setup anyway (nozzle x).

Posted : 10/08/2021 2:49 pm
Diem
 Diem
(@diem)
Noble Member

I buy a fair amount from Hobby King, it's lower quality but cheap and good enough for early prototyping.

Cheerio,

Posted : 10/08/2021 11:44 pm
AndrewTerry
(@andrewterry)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
Test Prints

@BrettG - as promised, I had a go with the 3DJake eco PLA (in matte purple!)… I had mixed results, tbh, but I think that’s mostly due to my lack of experience with non-Prusament filaments.

I got a lovely first layer 75x75 square right off the bat, with only minimal adjustment to the Z-height, so ran a Benchy. This is where I hit problems with stringing. To cut a long afternoon’s story short, I played with different temperatures from 190 - 215, although the 190 print didn’t look at all right, so I abandoned it at the point the gyroid infilled pattern stats printing.

Amongst the Benchys, I also ran 3 cube/vase mode prints to get the extrusion multiplier just right, did another Benchy, but still couldn’t eliminate the stringing.

In the photo below, from left to right the temperatures are 193, 195, 205, 210. The 193 version completed and had seemed to have the least amount of stringing, but split along the bottom when I removed it from the plate and showed signs of under extrusion/layer separation), I didn’t grab a photo of the 215 version, but I couldn’t see any noticeable difference between it and the 210 version.

3dJake Benchy Tests

As I say, I think the problem lies more with my lack of experience with fine-tuning than with the filament itself - I’m going to read-up some more, and keep trying, because despite the stringing, the surface finish is really lovely.

Posted : 12/08/2021 11:12 am
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
Famed Member

Its possible for even new unopened filament to have acquired some moisture, depends on the manufacturer and conditions when it was made.  if you have the facility to dry it i would try that first before playing with other settings.  The low temp tests were weak probably down to being too cool to get proper inter layer bonding.  I'd go for the higher 215 temp and live with the stringing as that will give better bonding.  
Fine stringing like that can be removed very easily with a very quickly pass with a butane lighter (blue flame).  Hair thin strings just shrivel right up.

Posted : 12/08/2021 11:37 am
AndrewTerry
(@andrewterry)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
Moisture

It's funny you mention moist filament... With every roll of Prusament I've opened, there's been a pop followed by a hiss as the pressure balances. With this roll, the plastic wrapper wasn't tightly vacuum sealed, and when I snipped off the end of the filament to load it into the printer, it felt "squidgy"(compared to Prusament)... I noticed this at the time, but didn't think anything of it until I read your post. Looks like I'll need to bake this roll in the oven for a bit, or invest in a dedicated dryer.

Posted : 12/08/2021 1:06 pm
mark
 mark
(@mark-3)
Estimable Member
RE: DIY Dryer
Posted by: @andrewterry

It's funny you mention moist filament... With every roll of Prusament I've opened, there's been a pop followed by a hiss as the pressure balances. With this roll, the plastic wrapper wasn't tightly vacuum sealed, and when I snipped off the end of the filament to load it into the printer, it felt "squidgy"(compared to Prusament)... I noticed this at the time, but didn't think anything of it until I read your post. Looks like I'll need to bake this roll in the oven for a bit, or invest in a dedicated dryer.

This has worked well for me:

https://letsprint3d.net/how-to-make-a-filament-dryer/

The attached is a 1/3 segment of the extensions that will fit on the Mini, sturdier than the 1/6 in that website.

Regards,

Mark

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Posted : 12/08/2021 2:04 pm
Etzeitet
(@etzeitet-2)
Active Member
Polymaker

I can recommend Polymaker filaments. They're not UK-based, but readily available at 3D Jake, and very reasonably priced.

I regularly use their PETG and PLA and have had no issues and print quality is great.

Posted : 16/08/2021 8:16 pm
Lupin
(@lupin)
Estimable Member
RE: DIY Dryer

I made filament drier of a similar food dehydrator, it also has 5 round trays. I took two of the trays and cot of the grill to get just the round frame. I placed one of the original trays on the bottom to ensure good airflow, stacked the two empty frames on top of that and put the lid on top. Cost me less than 40€.
I have this dehydrator: https://www.sencor.com/food-dehydrator/sfd-742rd
It is easily available in many supermarkets here, and was cheap. Modification was very simple, I used side cutters to remove the tray from frames. Trays are acrylic.

Posted : 22/08/2021 9:52 am
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