Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
I've just started poking around a bit more in 1.41.0-beta+ and noticed that the startup gcode is significantly simplified in this version. Notably, all of the M201, M203, M204 and M205 commands are gone. It appears that these have been replaced with settings in the Printer Settings->Machine Limits tab now. It looks like there have been some minor tweaks to some of the materials as well. I didn't notice these updates mentioned in the release notes. I thought I'd ask if I'm reading all this right, and alert anybody who's made extensive gcode modifications that they should review the latest.
Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
Have to say that what has been happening with Slic3r recently is not ideal, but I do understand why they are doing it.
But it's just one more reason why I have problems using that program 🙁
Peter
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Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
Have to say that what has been happening with Slic3r recently is not ideal, but I do understand why they are doing it.
But it's just one more reason why I have problems using that program 🙁
Peter
I'm sorry... Would you deign to explain ANY of that for us non-clairvoyants?
__1. What--exactly--has been "happening" to Slic3r?
__2. Why is it not ideal?
__3. Why are they doing it?
__4. What are these reasons/problems?
__....and
__5. What compels you to comment in such a cryptic manner?
That's "MISTER Old Fart" to you!
Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
I'm sorry... Would you deign to explain ANY of that for us non-clairvoyants?
__1. What--exactly--has been "happening" to Slic3r?
__2. Why is it not ideal?
__3. Why are they doing it?
__4. What are these reasons/problems?
__....and
__5. What compels you to comment in such a cryptic manner?
Sorry, it wasn't intended to be anything cryptic; and it's probably just me 🙁
I have found Slic3r to be rather difficult to use over the years and I really don't like some of the new "features" being implemented. Have you (for example) been told that you have made changes to a profile, and when you try to save them, you are told that you can't do that? Why not? That's the only profile I want/need on my PC, why do I have to have profiles that I will never use?
I really do prefer KISS. But I guess that for others, Slic3r work nicely. It does produce some great prints as well.
Damnit, I can't write what I want to; I would be accused of being cryptic again!
Peter
Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…
Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
Guess that is a problem with being on the inside with Kiss development.
I have found that when you change something users get very protective about what they had
In a previous life I worked on telephone systems and found it really odd to be expected to change the feature access codes to match a system the company had fifteen or more years previously...
With progress comes change
Some people don't want to change...
On this forum we have people who use
Simplify3D
KISS
CURA AND
Slic3r to name four different slicers
All have benefits and weaknesses. All do similar things in different ways.
None are perfect.
We tend to use what we are comfortable with
Sometimes even hopping ship because for instance Simplify has manual supports and that will be beneficial in the latest print...
Each person has a preferred slicer. And some are very protective about their preferred choice
Regards Joan
I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK
Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
Each person has a preferred slicer. And some are very protective about their preferred choice
Regards Joan
Yes, of course. Windows vs. Unix(based) vs. Apple; VHS vs. Betamax; HD vs Blumax; Ford vs. Chevy...
"I can do this ALL day long..." (sorry, my mind often works in/runs to obscure movie quotes... 😛 but I'm happy to explain them!)
In my extremely noob experience, I've only had time thus far to scratch the surface (if that) with Slic3r PE. I don't know enough to know what I like or what I don't (a little like... another first experience 😳 ), so anything is/may be helpful/illuminating. I've seen vids describing the other slicers, but I'm a one-thing-at-a-time kinda person. At this time, I'd venture I would find any of them to be difficult (dare I say incomprehensible?)--I'm not even up to speed on the jargon yet.
While there are some very experienced, knowledgeable (and PATIENT) folks on this forum, I'd say the vast majority of us are the opposite--noobs, tyros, first-timers... We don't even know what we don't know.
Regrettably, SOMETIMES it's necessary to explain as you would a child. 😕
That's "MISTER Old Fart" to you!
Re: Slic3rPE 1.41.0-beta+ Machine Limits replacing gcode?
Slic3r definitely has that "open source" feel to it, but I have to say I'm impressed with where Prusa is going with it. They've done a good job of organizing things logically (e.g. filament gcode) and adding features. If they get the user interface modernized, I'll be happy to use it.
[...] have found Slic3r to be rather difficult to use over the years and I really don't like some of the new "features" being implemented.
[...] Have you (for example) been told that you have made changes to a profile, and when you try to save them, you are told that you can't do that? Why not? That's the only profile I want/need on my PC, why do I have to have profiles that I will never use?
I'm having the opposite experience with KISS. I need to remember to "save a copy" before making any profile changes. Twice now I've had to wipe out my confused changes and start over due to the auto-save. A toggle would be nice for both slciers.
I think Prusa has gone with the non-user modifiable profiles for support reasons. (I think Prusa added this functionality!) Given the range of users they have to deal with, I can see why they'd want one "official" slicer and configuration options. If a user is stuck, get them back to the supported slicer and configs to see if the problem still exists. A very handy capability. It would be nice if you could hide unwanted options though. There are a lot of printer settings and filament brands I'll never need to deal with.
I really do prefer KISS. But I guess that for others, Slic3r work nicely. It does produce some great prints as well.
I'm in no-man's land. I really like KISS (paid for the premium license even) but keep getting stuck with some settings. I'm 80% of the way to having a good "slice and go" set of defaults, but right now, layer seams are giving me fits. Interestingly, having only played with it a bit, I did a comparison print of the XYZ cube with my Slic3r, KISS and rebuilt (don't ask) Cura settings. Cura is much worse than I'd realized in comparison. KISS, for not having some of the "machine awareness" of Slic3r, produces nice prints, and I'm not even into the preloading and advanced features yet. I have high hopes for v2! I'll be posting to the KISS forums with comparisons and asking questions soon.
Damnit, I can't write what I want to; I would be accused of being cryptic again!
I just settle for being incoherent myself.