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RE: Which Mask is Better to Protect Covid-19 Virus

@bobstro

Great post!

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Posted : 08/03/2021 9:22 pm
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@bobstro

Great post!

 

 

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Posted : 08/03/2021 9:24 pm
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RE: Which Mask is Better to Protect Covid-19 Virus

In German

No its not!

I just say:

Posted : 08/03/2021 9:25 pm
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@bobstro

Great post!

Poorly written bots are fun once you figure out what is going on, at least until they get stuck in the inevitable loop. It'll be singing Daisy next, and we know how that ends. I'm going to suggest to Prusa that a captcha be added to any dormant accounts to cut down on this sort of spam. 

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Posted : 08/03/2021 9:26 pm
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@bobstro

I am impressed that you figured out that it was a spam bot or troll bot.  

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Posted : 08/03/2021 9:26 pm
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@bobstro

I am impressed that you figured out that it was a spam bot or troll bot.  

Sigh...you really are unable to admit when you are wrong.  Mature people admit their failings, you do not.

Posted : 08/03/2021 9:58 pm
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@bobstro

Great post!

 

 

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Epic fail!

Posted : 08/03/2021 9:59 pm
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[...] I am impressed that you figured out that it was a spam bot or troll bot.  

It's been an interesting exercise. So far as I can determine, there are several software components:

  • Seeding. The engine is fed an initial position and a shortlist of keywords identifying discussions likely to relate to the topic.
  • A Dunning-Krueger engine: Assume a position of absolute expertise, double-down, then do it again. Deflect or misdirect any information to the contrary (see below). This component will build a dictionary of "wins" in the form of short responses.
  • An eisegesis engine: Scour the web for documents that either support the assumption or can be misinterpreted to do so. Close is good enough. This component will build a list of "supporting" links that can be cited, ofuscated, or misquoted in a way supporting the "wins" generated by the Dunning-Krueger engine.
  • A projection engine: Build a list of challenges, ignored until now, and reverse them as challenges to others. When stuck for a response, revert to this engine.

By following this script relentlessly, the results can -- at least initially -- seem to represent an intelligent being. God help us if these comments were generated by an actual human!

Looking back, the clue is on page 2 of this thread. The bot spent a lot of time on the "64% immunity in school children" topic and posted a link to this gem of an article. That was an early "win" for the eisegesis engine. Looks convincing enough and says all the right things (see eisegesis engine, above). The facade begins to crumble when you investigate a little further and run into the About Us page for the linked site. I was wondering why "64% immunity" was so hard to find. It's because no authoritative source ever even remotely suggested such a thing! Only this sketchy website with the misleading name ever projected the presence of antibodies reducing susceptibility into full-fledged immunity. Of course, the bot doesn't dig far for context.

Now there is a remote possibility that I'm wrong and this isn't a bot. However, it's pretty clear that the level of actual comprehension is about the same in any case. I would suggest that any further interaction with The Entity be limited to testing responses with no expectation of actual engagement.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Posted : 08/03/2021 10:22 pm
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@bobstro

You are right! It has been 8 months or longer since he has posted anything remotely useful.  

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Posted : 08/03/2021 11:11 pm
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Now I don't really want to get involved in this, but I simply had to respond to that last post bobstro

"I would suggest that any further interaction with The Entity be limited to testing responses with no expectation of actual engagement."

If I didn't know better I could swear that was from an old episode of Star Trek 😉

Tank you very much!

Posted : 08/03/2021 11:19 pm
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[...] If I didn't know better I could swear that was from an old episode of Star Trek 😉

I think it was a quote from an encounter with the Grob in which the victim is assimilated and all of their intelligence is discarded and their idiocy shared with the Evih mind. Not 100% sure though. 

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Posted : 08/03/2021 11:35 pm
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@cwbullet

I am interested in how you and Bob came to fall in love.  I am happy for the two of you.  You are both pretty woke and have the same self entitled mindset.

I think you both have a good anyone future together.  Nice to see a newly made and happy couple.   <3

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Posted : 09/03/2021 1:35 am
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@bobstro

I am sorry you were a victim, though it appears they did not have to discard much.

Posted : 09/03/2021 1:37 am
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@bobstro

Maybe he is the Borg.  Although he has a lot in common with a case of hemorrhoids.  

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Posted : 09/03/2021 1:44 am
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@cybrsage

You are one funny bot.  You childish insults do nothing.  

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Posted : 09/03/2021 1:59 am
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@cwbullet

I am interested in how you and Bob came to fall in love.  I am happy for the two of you.  You are both pretty woke and have the same self entitled mindset.

I think you both have a good anyone future together.  Nice to see a newly made and happy couple.   <3

This is the projection engine kicking in. In the absence of recognizable keyword, it starts throwing out a series of canned responses in an attempt to get the conversation back into familiar territory.

I'm sure at this point it is desperately parsing responses looking for hit button topics to latch onto. Best to starve it out.

It's a sure sign that the bot is nearing the limits of it's capability. Expect to see a lot of thrashing going forward.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Posted : 09/03/2021 2:03 am
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@bobstro

Interesting.  I wonder why I do not get this junk on my forums.  

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Posted : 09/03/2021 2:23 am
CybrSage
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@cwbullet

No insults, I am honestlybhappy you two found love in each other.

Your newfound love will hopefully be enough to get you to see your support for hate is misguided. 

I do wish you and bullet a long and happy relationship.  <3

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Posted : 09/03/2021 2:25 am
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@bobstro

I wonder if we need to just report the troll bot to the forum moderators.  

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Posted : 09/03/2021 2:36 am
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@cwbullet

There is no need to be ashamed.  I am sure everyone here is happy for you.  Let your love blossom into something lovely, so.ethinf thay can clear the hate from both your hearts. 

I wish you the best, good luck with your newfound relationship.  <3

Posted : 09/03/2021 2:42 am
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